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  A question about fading....

  by Tornintwo in

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  2. friends

  i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

  as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

  so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

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  Beth Sarim

  Oh, yeah I forgot. Like I mentioned fading takes planning, it can be very hard work.

  A ''quick fade'' may be possible if you have no real family in the Borg. A ''quick fade'' may be possible too for a newly reinstated person who had been DF'd for a bit.

  With immediate family in the Borg, well, I'm afraid it takes longer. Can be a lot longer in a lot of cases. It depends too also on how ''involved'' your immediate family is in the Borg. If your immediately family includes someone like your dad being an elder, it will take a lot longer to ''fade'', unfortunately. It all takes time, patience and hard work(mental planning)
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  3 local needs parts on service meeting.

  by hoser in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is scheduled on our service meeting next week to have 3 local needs parts.

  local needs 1 , local needs 2 and local needs 3.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yeah, three in one night. Holy $hit!! Busy elders.
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  Is Religion Dying Out? - AWAKE! NOVEMBER 2015

  by GrownMidget in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "have you given up on organized religion?

  in many countries the number of people who describe themselves as not religious is growinga trend that suggests an uncertain future for institutional religion.

  some of those lands are shown here.

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  Beth Sarim

  Generally religions is dying a slow death, especially the high control ones. Most people don't want to be controlled any longer.
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  My fade might well start today.

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many here whom have read my previous posts know more or less my situation.

  wife is not hardcore but we still bump heads from time to time.

  if it wasn't for this cult, and while it was not an issue, we had an almost perfect marriage.

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  Beth Sarim

  StarTrek;

  Good luck with your fade. It has taken me years, if not decades to wiggle-out of the control group. Yes, I've said it decades!! It starts ever slow, then you do less and less as months, years go by. People just say ahh, '''Beth Sarim'' won't be here, I'm not surprised!!
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  Shunning is psychologically terrorizing

  by poopie in

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  its barbaric.

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  Beth Sarim

  Shunning is terrorizing, it is barbaric. It is control mechanism of a high control group. Unquestioning obedience or you are summoned for judicial committee for apostasy. Shunning is a control mechanism to keep the rank and file under their control.
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  Polish BOE Re: Legal matters and revised charter for Poland

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  boe letter about legal matters and revised charter for jehovah's witnesses in poland.

  submitted by ohmyjw.

  jehovah's witnesses in polandbranch office05-830 nadarzyn, ul.

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  Beth Sarim

  come to think of it, there are so many parallels to the New World Order of the Illuminati and the New World Order of the WT. You keep hearing the Dubs say ''New World Oder'' when they are about, I remember hearing it at the KH over the years and even in field service. Could the two be connected? Interesting.
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  Do You Think Any Of The Governing Body Are Contemplating Suicide? Over This Rather Rude Financial Reality?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  faithful and always so very discrete in many things but when it comes to the lord's money not so good.. i think as it begins to register in their minds as to what a terrible job they have done as ceos of a large corporation leading it into this condition that thoughts of suicide come from.

  not to mention the shame at being a public spetical to the world by the rc.

  all these things and more are creeping through their denial as they are forced to face reality.

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  Beth Sarim

  They may make the rank and file commit suicide for them. I think the Borg is just a few steps away from a ''Jonestown'' like situation.
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  How To Test a J.W.'s Loyalty/Stupidity

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "would you do absolutely anything which the governing body instructed you to do?

  for example, sell your home and possessions, move in with another witness, and send all your money to the org?".

  if 'no', they're showing that they will pick and choose which org directives they will follow.

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  Beth Sarim

  Test of loyalty to the Borg:

  ''We must be ready to obey any instructions we receive whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not''

  In other words, basically anything the GB instruct, I wouldn't put it past them.
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  A question about fading....

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

  as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

  so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

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  Beth Sarim

  Fading is like an art form. Each situation is different. Fading is dependant on various factors like family, how involved is someone, things like these.

  Yes, it can take years, perhaps even decades to ''fade'' out, for the sake of keeping loved ones.
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  You contemptible worms aren't giving us enough! GIVE US MORE! Service meeting part December 21, 2015

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.

  to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.

  this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.

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  Beth Sarim

  True. We know the Borg isn't being fully transparent with where the money goes. A good example is that of the Candace Conti case. There's evidence right there the Borg isn't really being forthright with money.

  A vast majority of the rank and file has even no clue about the Candace Conti case.